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jimmyboy1952
Under 21's Squad Member
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 Posted - 26 July 2012 : 14:59:14
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| I reckon it is difficult for Barry to sign real quality as we need to stay within the budget, we also need to be aware that until last week we were first division team with first division players, what ever we achieve this coming season will be down to hard graft and the fans backing, which we really need to do and get back to being DEE-fiant, the atmosphere last season was really poor. |
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3rdGenerationD
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1214 Posts |
Posted - 26 July 2012 : 16:06:12
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Originally posted by jimmyboy1952
I reckon it is difficult for Barry to sign real quality as we need to stay within the budget, we also need to be aware that until last week we were first division team with first division players, what ever we achieve this coming season will be down to hard graft and the fans backing, which we really need to do and get back to being DEE-fiant, the atmosphere last season was really poor.
Have to agree, it's going to be a long hard season and hoepfully our final position will surprise us all but in reality we are a good few players behind the rest and that could make 3 points very rare for us, I'll cherish every one.
Unfortunately, my view is that we have a few to many solid 1st division players that may find life tough in the SPL, our SPL experienced players bar one or two are probably to old to produce at a higher level week in week out. On the flip side I'm hopeing some of the guys in the squad will surprise us and step up to the SPL level.
As for the lack of new signings since SPL invite I'm thinking it maybe January before we see any new players at Dens due to money and lack of time to assess. |
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leemac
Fringe Player
144 Posts |
Posted - 26 July 2012 : 21:59:54
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Originally posted by 3rdGenerationD
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Originally posted by jimmyboy1952
I reckon it is difficult for Barry to sign real quality as we need to stay within the budget, we also need to be aware that until last week we were first division team with first division players, what ever we achieve this coming season will be down to hard graft and the fans backing, which we really need to do and get back to being DEE-fiant, the atmosphere last season was really poor.
Have to agree, it's going to be a long hard season and hoepfully our final position will surprise us all but in reality we are a good few players behind the rest and that could make 3 points very rare for us, I'll cherish every one.
Unfortunately, my view is that we have a few to many solid 1st division players that may find life tough in the SPL, our SPL experienced players bar one or two are probably to old to produce at a higher level week in week out. On the flip side I'm hopeing some of the guys in the squad will surprise us and step up to the SPL level.
As for the lack of new signings since SPL invite I'm thinking it maybe January before we see any new players at Dens due to money and lack of time to assess.
It's all about opinions i suppose so gotta disagree with this post.In Douglas,Irvine,McGregor,O'Donnell,McBride,McCluskey,Conroy,Milne and Finnigan we've got more than a fair bit of SPL experience,with only Douglas and Milne approaching the twilight of their careers IMO.Most of these guys,again IMO,will do a decent job in the SPL.I fully expect us to make 2 or 3 signings ahead of the SPL opener against Killie,Barry and his staff are working their socks off to make sure they sign the right guys. |
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1123 Posts |
Posted - 26 July 2012 : 22:33:58
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Think if we wait till January to sign Spl players our season will be beyond repair.
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2569 Posts |
Posted - 26 July 2012 : 23:30:21
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| Steven Milne is hardly in the twilight of his career as he is 32 years old (d.o.b) 5th May 1980. |
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Revdee
First Team Player
United Kingdom
294 Posts |
Posted - 27 July 2012 : 08:13:31
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A bit harsh. Think we have the players to compete in the SPL. On a good day we can certainly take points off R.County, Inverness etc. The problem for me is consistency. We just lack a wee bit of quality at times and it will be difficult to sustain performance levels. Depth of squad will be another issue. A few injuries and we could struggle. I'm just delighted we have been given the chance to have a go in the SPL. Every game is a bonus and we have nothing to lose.
I like the fact Barry is not rushing into bringing in players. Now is the time for cool heads and not to panic. Not sure i would be looking for 30+ ex-SPL experienced players. Younger, enthusiastic, ambitious players like Declan Gallagher is the way forward. The supporters also have a huge part to play. Get behind the team and i honestly think we will surprise a few people.
The future is bright. The future is dark blue:)
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Neil McCanns chip
First Team Player
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Posted - 27 July 2012 : 10:47:50
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Scot Gardiner says in the Courier today that:
"We never banked or budgeted on TV money but the lacl of clarity has put us in a sticky situation with regard to signing players.
"We have been really busy and have lined our ducks up, so to speak, but we can't fire the bullets yet."
Looking like the TV deal might be settled today, the SPL share transfer is on the verge of taking place and we'll be running out at Rugby Park in front of a huge travelling support and possibly with a couple of new faces in the ranks. It's all good in the hood. |
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leemac
Fringe Player
144 Posts |
Posted - 27 July 2012 : 10:50:51
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Originally posted by islaydarkblue
Steven Milne is hardly in the twilight of his career as he is 32 years old (d.o.b) 5th May 1980.
Never said he was,the word "approaching" kinda tells you that.I was only replying to another poster who suggested our SPL experienced players were too old to produce consistently in the top league.You did read it did'nt you???;0) |
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NewportDee
Dundee Legend
1127 Posts |
Posted - 27 July 2012 : 10:52:22
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Like all clubs we can do with some more players (goalie, left back, centre half and goal scoring central midfielder in my opinion) however from what I've seen of the bottom half of the SPL those teams are also needing extra players.
I watched ICT v Hibs on ESPN towards the end of last season and both teams were truly woeful. Since then ICT have lost Tade and Hayes whilst Hibs have lost O'Connor and Brown. St Mirren have lost Hasselbank amongst others. Lets not be too downbeat - if the players give 100% every game and try to improve their game via the training sessions then I think we can compete enough to stay in the league. |
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BlueDee79
Internationalist
United Kingdom
310 Posts |
Posted - 27 July 2012 : 13:42:43
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Originally posted by NewportDee
Like all clubs we can do with some more players (goalie, left back, centre half and goal scoring central midfielder in my opinion) however from what I've seen of the bottom half of the SPL those teams are also needing extra players.
I watched ICT v Hibs on ESPN towards the end of last season and both teams were truly woeful. Since then ICT have lost Tade and Hayes whilst Hibs have lost O'Connor and Brown. St Mirren have lost Hasselbank amongst others. Lets not be too downbeat - if the players give 100% every game and try to improve their game via the training sessions then I think we can compete enough to stay in the league.
One of my Arab mates suggested that in the Derby, our biggest liability was Rab. Is the SPL the best place to have an 'older' keeper as 1st choice?? I am by no means slagging off Rab, he is a legend, but again my mate suggested 3 shots, 3 goals at the derby, I have no frame of ref as I wasn't there. Do we need a keeper, I know we have signed one, could he step up to number 1 with Rab supporting him? Is Rab even interested in being a backup? Also, firepower does appear to be a recurring point, good build up play then a damp squib, I felt we had that issue last season too. |
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3rdGenerationD
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1214 Posts |
Posted - 27 July 2012 : 14:44:44
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[/quote]It's all about opinions i suppose so gotta disagree with this post.In Douglas,Irvine,McGregor,O'Donnell,McBride,McCluskey,Conroy,Milne and Finnigan we've got more than a fair bit of SPL experience...[/quote]
I hear what your saying Leemac but my worry is out of the list of players some were only bit part players and the others like Douglas, Milne and McBride are definately in the twilght of their careers :)
In saying that I'm hopeing to be pleasently surprised and will be, as always, backing the team through thick and thin. |
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stewartg
Dundee Legend
Japan
1062 Posts |
Posted - 27 July 2012 : 15:40:05
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Originally posted by leemac
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Originally posted by islaydarkblue
Steven Milne is hardly in the twilight of his career as he is 32 years old (d.o.b) 5th May 1980.
Never said he was,the word "approaching" kinda tells you that.I was only replying to another poster who suggested our SPL experienced players were too old to produce consistently in the top league.You did read it did'nt you???;0)
And I had to laugh too in the same post about Rab Douglas approaching the twilight of his career. He's 40. |
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1123 Posts |
Posted - 27 July 2012 : 18:25:02
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2569 Posts |
Posted - 28 July 2012 : 01:03:15
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leemac.
You said that only Douglas and Milne were approaching the twilight of their careers. I agree that Rab Douglas who is aged 40 is, but Steven Milne who is 32 years old is certainly NOT approaching the twilight of his career. |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2569 Posts |
Posted - 28 July 2012 : 01:06:23
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| Kevin McBride is 31 years old which is hardly in the twilight of his career. |
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2615 Posts |
Posted - 28 July 2012 : 10:30:05
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| Isn't everyone past 30 in the twilight of their career if they generally play from 18 to 33ish. |
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leemac
Fringe Player
144 Posts |
Posted - 28 July 2012 : 10:36:05
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[i]Originally posted by islaydarkblue[/i]
[br]Kevin McBride is 31 years old which is hardly in the twilight of his career.
Take it they've got Google in Islay then?.I did'nt say McBride was reaching the twilight of his career,please try and read the post properly!!!!.Douglas,at 40yrs old,can play on for another few seasons IMO,40 is'nt that old when you're a keeper,different if you're a hard working outfield player,like Milne for example,when your retirement age is considerably lower.This is especially true when you're a hard working outfield player AND you have a history of injuries,like Milne,again for example. |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2569 Posts |
Posted - 28 July 2012 : 15:42:52
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I am afraid I only use dee4life.easysearch.org.uk for my searches on the internet. I do not believe in giving 100% of the advertising revenue to Google when DFCSS can receive 50% (0.5p per search) on easysearch.
For the record I was replying to 3rdGenerationD's post that McBride was also in the twilight of his career.
Goodness knows what the pair of you would say about Sir Stanley Matthews playing on until 50 years old, or Gordon Smith winning a league title with Dundee just short of his 38th birthday. He was born on 25th May 1924. |
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leemac
Fringe Player
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Posted - 28 July 2012 : 17:59:36
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[i]Originally posted by islaydarkblue[/i]
[br]I am afraid I only use dee4life.easysearch.org.uk for my searches on the internet. I do not believe in giving 100% of the advertising revenue to Google when DFCSS can receive 50% (0.5p per search) on easysearch.
For the record I was replying to 3rdGenerationD's post that McBride was also in the twilight of his career.
Goodness knows what the pair of you would say about Sir Stanley Matthews playing on until 50 years old, or Gordon Smith winning a league title with Dundee just short of his 38th birthday. He was born on 25th May 1924.
If the football then,was played at todays pace,i'm afraid it would be virtually impossible to play until you were 50,no matter how good you were.P.S.sorry for the misunderstanding,using the quote button could've saved you any unnecessary grief though,as i posted after a 12hr n/shift in the tyre factory from hell:0) |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2569 Posts |
Posted - 28 July 2012 : 21:22:29
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leemac.
That's OK.
By the way, where is the quote button. |
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