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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 13 July 2012 : 15:31:19
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It is reported on the BBC Sport website that as a result of the SFL vote putting Rangers in SFL Division 3 Neil Doncaster and the SPL will make moves to put Rangers in SPL 2 and invite other clubs to join them.
This is an outrage from Neil Doncaster who does not seem to understand the meaning of the word NO!
SFL clubs currently require to give two years notice of leaving the Scottish Football League unless the remaining clubs vote in favour.
In the present climate I cannot see the SFL chairman voting in favour of teams such as Dundee, Dunfermline, Partick Thistle and Falkirk being allow to join SPL 2 in August 2012 (even if they want to) when the SFL is going to be cast adrift by the SPL.
If Rangers end up in the SPL 2 they will be there on their own and should be guaranteed full points for every match they play.
It will be a bit like the Estonia v Scotland World Cup Qualifier when Estonia did not turn up because of a dispute about the floodlights. |
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dmbuild66
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
785 Posts |
Posted - 13 July 2012 : 22:13:38
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Originally posted by islaydarkblue
If Rangers end up in the SPL 2 they will be there on their own and should be guaranteed full points for every match they play.
Can they play any matches on their own? |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2514 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 00:52:26
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| I actually doubt it but as afar as Messrs Doncaster and Regan are concerned anything is possible |
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 00:55:23
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they should really win the league by default because, well, they are the people.
in fact if they play in Div 3 and fail to win the division there should really be an inquiry as to why this happened and a motion put forward that whoever did win the divison should default and the rightful 'winners' be promoted i.e New Co Rangers |
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2557 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 09:07:26
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| There is no chance at all they could now look at creating a new SPL2 for the start of this season. The SFL clubs have made it clear they want a 42 club resolution, i.e. everyone under the same league structure. SPL is burst. |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2514 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 13:42:04
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It is splashed across today's Sun newspaper "Division 3 then 3 days later in SPL".
If this story is correct then it is an outrage and Scottish Football is finished.
I would suggest that the SPL clubs that voted in favour of newco Rangers not being re-admitted to the SPL this season should resign from the SPL with immediate effect and join the Scottish Football League. The SFL could then fix up their own TV deal(s) with Richard Branson at Virgin and/or Ian Livingstone at BT.
I suspect that Kilmarnock (who abstained) and Inverness Caledonian Thistle who are vavering would probably remain in the SPL with newco Rangers. |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2514 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 13:43:51
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The first word in the last line should read; wavering.
Sorry for the error. |
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dmbuild66
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
785 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 15:36:22
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Originally posted by islaydarkblue
It is splashed across today's Sun newspaper "Division 3 then 3 days later in SPL".
If this story is correct then it is an outrage and Scottish Football is finished.
I would suggest that the SPL clubs that voted in favour of newco Rangers not being re-admitted to the SPL this season should resign from the SPL with immediate effect and join the Scottish Football League. The SFL could then fix up their own TV deal(s) with Richard Branson at Virgin and/or Ian Livingstone at BT.
I suspect that Kilmarnock (who abstained) and Inverness Caledonian Thistle who are vavering would probably remain in the SPL with newco Rangers.
Never believe anything you read in The Sun, I'm still aghast that there are people out there that read The Sun never mind believe what they read! Ah well I suppose thats where half the guff you read on here comes from. |
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2557 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 17:24:12
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| The newspapers have had it all wrong time and again over the whole sorry affair. |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2514 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 17:26:34
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It is hard to miss the headline when the Sun newspaper is lying on the floor of my local newspaper shop in Bruichladdich. I suspect that this headline is ploy by the Sun to try to boost sales in the West of Scotland.
The Sun is only useful for one thing, making paper briquettes as fuel for the fire in the winter time. |
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tayportdee
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
801 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 17:27:03
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Originally posted by islaydarkblue
The first word in the last line should read; wavering.
Sorry for the error.
should it not be slavering? |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2514 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 18:12:31
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tayportdee.
I was furious when I saw the front page of the Sun newspaper as I thought that everything had been resolved and we were now awaiting the Team 12 decision on Monday. |
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dmbuild66
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
785 Posts |
Posted - 14 July 2012 : 19:02:37
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Originally posted by islaydarkblue
It is hard to miss the headline when the Sun newspaper is lying on the floor of my local newspaper shop in Bruichladdich. I suspect that this headline is ploy by the Sun to try to boost sales in the West of Scotland.
The Sun is only useful for one thing, making paper briquettes as fuel for the fire in the winter time.
That Sun newspaper was on the floor for a reason, to wipe your feet on! not to read. |
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JohnB1987
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 July 2012 : 23:11:27
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The printed media's performance throughout this affair has been absolutely risible. Anyone taking either the Sun, or it's rival the Record remotely seriously needs their heads read.
Both papers have got every single prediction on various votes and meetings totally wrong thus far, and the reality is that they haven't got a clue what's happening on Monday.
They're simply banking that such a glaring headline will result in a large number of gullible Rangers fans going "OMFG I better buy that and see what the script is"
The SPL chairmen know that they can't about-face and let Sevco5088 into the SPL. They'd see a fan revolt previously thought not possible.
The statements from ICT's chairman, and in particular St Mirren's Stewart Gilmour and reprehensible. Gilmour apparently has claimed the SFL's vote as a disaster for Scottish football. Well if he thinks that, perhaps he should have had the cojones to vote "yes" in the SPL's vote, instead of hoping he could look good to his own fans while Regan and Doncaster bullied the SFL into putting Sevco into Division One.
Bad luck chaps.
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dmbuild66
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
785 Posts |
Posted - 15 July 2012 : 12:24:50
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Originally posted by JohnB1987
The SPL chairmen know that they can't about-face and let Sevco5088 into the SPL. They'd see a fan revolt previously thought not possible.
Bad luck chaps.
Have to agree with you about the SPL chairmen not about-facing and letting Sevco5088 back into the SPL. But then a thought came to me what with all the twists and turns that have gone on before, what would happen IF 'Sevco5088' was renamed (think you know where I'm coming from) to 'Glasgow Rangers' I know, I know, its a laughable scenario but, then there would have been no U-turn. Spl chairmen could hold their smirking heads high, Sky would gratefully pour millions into the top flight, messers Doncaster, Regan etc could again swagger around the steps of Hampden Park, no decision would have to be made about DFC or DAFC getting promoted and both could go about happily preparing for life in the SFL league 1.
Seems a win/win situation to me, but this surely couldn't happen?
OR could it? |
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JohnB1987
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1043 Posts |
Posted - 15 July 2012 : 17:29:05
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Unlikely as anyone with a modicum of nous would see straight through that. I honestly believe that if the respective SPL chairmen bottle it and vote Sevco/Glasgow Rangers into the top division, they'll kill their clubs. Their own supporters will chuck it in droves, and all for the greed of an average TV deal and the desperation to get a gate or two off a thoroughly unpleasant set of supporters every season.
I know personally that after 25 years of following Dundee, if we were to display such chicken-hearted behaviour at board level, I wouldn't be back. |
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dmbuild66
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
785 Posts |
Posted - 15 July 2012 : 18:04:09
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Originally posted by JohnB1987
Unlikely as anyone with a modicum of nous would see straight through that. I honestly believe that if the respective SPL chairmen bottle it and vote Sevco/Glasgow Rangers into the top division, they'll kill their clubs. Their own supporters will chuck it in droves, and all for the greed of an average TV deal and the desperation to get a gate or two off a thoroughly unpleasant set of supporters every season.
I know personally that after 25 years of following Dundee, if we were to display such chicken-hearted behaviour at board level, I wouldn't be back.
I was joking - but on the other hand we have seen straight through other 'suggestions' from the SPL/SFA. While I don't think this one would slip the net I feel there is still some twists and turns to unfold yet! |
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mev
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
756 Posts |
Posted - 16 July 2012 : 07:03:04
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If Dundee applied to join an SPL2 to get Rangers into the league placing that Doncaster and Regan want then I wouldn't be back. The club already has my season ticket money but they wouldn't get any more out of me.
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 16 July 2012 : 19:34:08
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Interesting to see that the SFA are at complete loggerheads with newCo. They want Rangers old membership so they can carry the idea of its history but the SFA are adamant that penalties apply. New co are refusing but are faced with oblivion because they would fail any attempt at applying as a 'new club' due to regulations and would get no licence/membership at all.
The fat lady hasnt stopped singing yet!
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Dark Blue Dreamchaser
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1507 Posts |
Posted - 16 July 2012 : 22:07:58
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Originally posted by highway_star
Interesting to see that the SFA are at complete loggerheads with newCo. They want Rangers old membership so they can carry the idea of its history but the SFA are adamant that penalties apply. New co are refusing but are faced with oblivion because they would fail any attempt at applying as a 'new club' due to regulations and would get no licence/membership at all.
The fat lady hasnt stopped singing yet!
Yup there's a ban on signing, but not on singing! |
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2557 Posts |
Posted - 16 July 2012 : 22:25:50
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Originally posted by mev
If Dundee applied to join an SPL2 to get Rangers into the league placing that Doncaster and Regan want then I wouldn't be back. The club already has my season ticket money but they wouldn't get any more out of me.
Jeez do we need contrived hypothetical theories to justify refusing to go to see Dundee. It isn't going to happen ! |
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