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RealDee
Fringe Player
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JohnB1987
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 15 July 2012 : 11:36:18
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It's almost certainly total rubbish. United have come out and reiterated their previous stance, hardly likely if they're heading for administration, and in any case they have some playing assets that would realise a fair amount of cash if they needed to stave off Admin.
St Mirren's claim is panicky nonsense. Is Gilmour stating that if a similar Rangers and TV-free event was to occur (let's say relegation) they would be liquidated as they wouldn't have planned for it?
I wouldn't give Motherwell's statements any credence whatsoever. Most of the pro-Rangers stuff has come from their Manager. they've turned a profit in the last 6 years and will make some dosh off the Champion League qualifiers this year.
95% of all this talk in the media is scare-mongering rubbish designed to convince us all that we just can't live without Rangers/Sevco, which is total nonsense.
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dmbuild66
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 July 2012 : 12:03:06
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Originally posted by RealDee
ST MIRREN last night predicted they could be one of FIVE SPL clubs plunged into administration within weeks if newco Rangers start life in Division Three.
Chairman Stewart Gilmour faces a near impossible task of balancing the books and fears Motherwell, Kilmarnock, Dundee United and Inverness are also on the verge of going bust.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sunday-mail/2012/07/15/st-mirren-chief-stewart-gilmour-five-spl-clubs-could-go-bust-in-weeks-if-rangers-start-life-in-division-three-86908-23908627/
This headline should sell some more papers?
Who would get promoted should another 5 clubs get thrown to the lions of the 3rd division?
Is there another 5 clubs with SPL criteria re, stadiums etc etc that could be promoted?
Are all current SPL clubs going to be playing themselves in the 'Third'?
Is this just more tripe to place 'The Mighty Rangers' back in the SPL?
Makes you wonder WHY the SPL teams voted Rangers out, or is there to be a twist and we find out they didn't?
Laughable?
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 July 2012 : 13:48:34
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St Mirren boasted at the end of the season just a couple of months back how they were a supporters club with balanced books, no debt and the future looked bright. Now, apparently, they will be bust within a few weeks?!
This all seems to be based upon the SKY/ESPN deal being ripped up. However, it cant be ignored that neither Doncaster at the SPL or indeed SKY have realeased any actual figures, details of current contracts or intentions for the next couple of seasons. As ever we are presented with meltdown scenarios with clubs facing going bust based on no evidence!
Anyone that has SKY (or ESPN) know they will cover anyting from footie, NFL, ice-hockey, British Basketball, Rugby League and Union, womens football league (ESPN), darts etc etc. Losing the Rangers tag for SPL games would be a huge dissapointment for SKY but just why this means the entire deal is off and teams find themselves out on the street beats me.
Still, I'm sure Doncaster has it all in hand and will clarify everything for us soon.
Anyhoo, a clear statement was made yesterday that there is no way the SPL vote will be over turned to squeeze old-Rangers back in. SPL2? now?! at this stage with all the legals etc required? no chance in my book. I reckon the SKY deal will continue, there may be a review for next year and possible reduction in fees but nothing like the horror scenario projected by Doncaster.
Actually if SKY keep the deal going and the obvious league restructure in some way or other comes through in two years time they might have a better product to show on TV.
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 July 2012 : 14:27:06
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The SPL clubs could not risk voting in favour of newco Rangers joining the SPL this season as they were unsure whether their supporters would purchase season tickets or pay at the gate for season 2012-13. Therefore they voted 10-1 against.
Now after the SFL vote some of these same clubs whose fans have since purchased their season tickets (in United's case about 2,000 season tickets since the SPL vote) are stating that they may go into administration.
If the SPL clubs do an about turn and vote newco Rangers in to the SPL their fans will NEVER forget this and most of the SPL clubs will be in administration either this season or the season after when their fans do not renew their season tickets. |
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
569 Posts |
Posted - 15 July 2012 : 14:39:30
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Originally posted by JohnB1987
It's almost certainly total rubbish. United have come out and reiterated their previous stance, hardly likely if they're heading for administration, and in any case they have some playing assets that would realise a fair amount of cash if they needed to stave off Admin.
St Mirren's claim is panicky nonsense. Is Gilmour stating that if a similar Rangers and TV-free event was to occur (let's say relegation) they would be liquidated as they wouldn't have planned for it?
I wouldn't give Motherwell's statements any credence whatsoever. Most of the pro-Rangers stuff has come from their Manager. they've turned a profit in the last 6 years and will make some dosh off the Champion League qualifiers this year.
95% of all this talk in the media is scare-mongering rubbish designed to convince us all that we just can't live without Rangers/Sevco, which is total nonsense.
The Motherwell stuff is bizarre given they are faced with some handy Euro money in the next month or so.
You mention their Manager. It is sad that he seems more ready to talk about the demise of Rangers instead of discussing the prospects of the team he is paid to manage. He did much the same last season when they had a real chance to actually get second place and all he did was talk about making sure they finished third! of course we all know which team was in second place. Sad stuff.
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 July 2012 : 14:41:02
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McFlick
First Team Player
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 July 2012 : 15:57:49
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So he votes against Rangers being in the SPL, then blames the SFL for adhering to their rules, because of the vote his club could go into Administration. If he was doing his job, he should have looked at all possibile outcomes of the SFL vote, including Rangers being admitted to the 3rd Div, rather than the 1st Division and the impact it would have had on his club, before voting against The Rangers. What did his own fans want ? The fact they may have to enter Admin is nobody's fault but their own. They are the ones who have been in control the clubs finances & budgets over the years, not the SFL. The SPL doesn't work, even with Sky, the clubs are still losing money and gates are falling year on year. Old Firm fans don't travel in numbers anywhere like they used to, probably due to the games being screened live. You used to get Rangers live one week the Celtic live the next, did you not? Now we get one half on the saturday and the other on the sunday. The product needs to be scrapped and replaced by a new model that works for all clubs, not just the few self-preservationists. The clubs have placed too much reliance on Sky money over the years. This should be the opportunity for radical change and the betterment of the game ,but no doubt it'll be lost to short term solutions and nothing much will change.
The 3rd Div grounds have small capacities, and won't be able to accommodate all those Rangers fans who want to go and watch their team. A great oportunity for a TV deal. |
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Mickey348
Under 18's Squad Member
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Posted - 23 July 2012 : 20:31:53
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Up to 5 clubs going into administration this season. Great news. 5 clubs -10points then. More chance of us staying up.
Ony joking. |
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emanzie
First Team Player
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Posted - 23 July 2012 : 23:59:43
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Originally posted by Mickey348
Up to 5 clubs going into administration this season. Great news. 5 clubs -10points then. More chance of us staying up.
Ony joking.
Er.. 15 surely? |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 July 2012 : 14:44:57
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Eric.
Where do you get 15 from.
An SPL team going into administration during the season is immediately deducted 10 points. |
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 July 2012 : 16:09:12
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Originally posted by islaydarkblue
Eric.
Where do you get 15 from.
An SPL team going into administration during the season is immediately deducted 10 points.
Didn't they change this recently. Something like a club going into administration would be deducted 10 points or one third of the club's total points from the previous season, whichever is highest.
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