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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 30 July 2012 : 22:47:28
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| Doing well in a couple of games is totally different from a league setting week after week and I don't believe that this team is ready to compete at SPL level, defence looks very weak IMO . |
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scott2410
Fringe Player
United Kingdom
90 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 07:39:48
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| Why are we needing to wait on the Sky deal before we sign any more players, surely the increased revenue due to significantly higher attendances in the SPL should be enough to finance a couple of signings, irrespective of what happens with Sky ! |
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leemac
Fringe Player
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Posted - 31 July 2012 : 09:18:34
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[i]Originally posted by scott2410[/i]
[br]Why are we needing to wait on the Sky deal before we sign any more players, surely the increased revenue due to significantly higher attendances in the SPL should be enough to finance a couple of signings, irrespective of what happens with Sky !
That would be my view as well and Scott Gardiner's,according to recent press reports!.Scott said the club HAD'NT budgeted for the Sky money and new signings would be made based on other incoming monies.So if it's not Sky what is the hold up?.Certainly got me puzzled,especially with rumours flying around that we've only got 11 fit players and Barry Smith's on the bench tonight to make up the numbers.Been optimistic up to now but must admit i'm starting to get worried somebody's not telling the truth. |
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Neil McCanns chip
First Team Player
185 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 09:25:33
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"Why are we needing to wait on the Sky deal before we sign any more players, surely the increased revenue due to significantly higher attendances in the SPL should be enough to finance a couple of signings, irrespective of what happens with Sky !"
I'm a bit perplexed by this as a few weeks ago the CEO said our budget would be determined by crowd revenue and anything we got from Sky would be a bonus.
I appreciate things are not as simple as we fans sometimes see them as, but surely we know we'll have enough extra revenue from the United and Celtic home game alone to go out and sign a couple of players (especially when we're down to the bare bones), even if the Sky deal does impact upon the remainder of the budget. |
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Revdee
First Team Player
United Kingdom
294 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 10:25:42
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Why are some folk panicing? Plenty time to strengthen the team. We may have to play the first 6 games with the squad we have, which is more than capable of winning games in this league by the way, if it means getting the right players then so be it. The season is not a sprint it's a marathon. Everybody has been praising the board and the manager so why start to doubt them now?
Barry will know what / who is required. I actually like the fact he has not signed anyone. Sign of a cool head. |
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leemac
Fringe Player
144 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 10:27:30
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[i]Originally posted by Neil McCanns chip[/i]
[br]"Why are we needing to wait on the Sky deal before we sign any more players, surely the increased revenue due to significantly higher attendances in the SPL should be enough to finance a couple of signings, irrespective of what happens with Sky !"
I'm a bit perplexed by this as a few weeks ago the CEO said our budget would be determined by crowd revenue and anything we got from Sky would be a bonus.
I appreciate things are not as simple as we fans sometimes see them as, but surely we know we'll have enough extra revenue from the United and Celtic home game alone to go out and sign a couple of players (especially when we're down to the bare bones), even if the Sky deal does impact upon the remainder of the budget.
Exactly.Somebody's not telling the truth.Transparency???. |
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Dundeesfinest
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
876 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 11:00:00
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| I must admit, despite not wanting to jump on the panic wagon, I too am starting to get a little nervous and worried by our lack of signings. Im sure I read that a Plan B had been put in place and players identified should we be 'promoted' to the SPL. I know we had a few guys on trial but both were strikers which is a department we arent really short on at present. I appreciate Dundee FC never do things the easy way so I hope we are just keeping our cards very close to our chest. In saying that, a cup run is always a great added bonus but I honestly cannot see us winning tonight with the players we have available. |
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GTtheDee
Fringe Player
United Kingdom
133 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 11:03:59
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| Noticed Liam Buchanan has turned down a deal with Dunfermline as he has something 'lined up' according to Jeffries. He was good a couple of years back at Partick when him n GGH were the main men. Think hes had a run of injuries but maybe worth a look? |
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Neil McCanns chip
First Team Player
185 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 11:34:08
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Revdee - people are panicking because we face going into the season with 11 fit outfield players, including four aged 21 or under none of whom have experience at this level. On top of that, two of our best players could be facing an extended spell on the sidelines if O'Donnell's scan doesn't go well and Riley has aggravated the hamstring injury that saw him miss the second half of last season.
At present, we could be going into the SPL with a weaker side than the one which finished 24 points behind Ross County in the first division last year.
I'm still hopeful that the injury/illness situation will abate a bit by Saturday and we'll be able to bring a few new faces in but five days before the big kick off and no new signings in place you can't blame people for fretting a bit. |
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1123 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 11:48:05
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[i]Originally posted by Revdee[/i]
[br]Why are some folk panicing? Plenty time to strengthen the team. We may have to play the first 6 games with the squad we have, which is more than capable of winning games in this league by the way, if it means getting the right players then so be it. The season is not a sprint it's a marathon. Everybody has been praising the board and the manager so why start to doubt them now?
Barry will know what / who is required. I actually like the fact he has not signed anyone. Sign of a cool head.
I don't believe that it is, we are very weak looking defensively and light up front re injury . |
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NewportDee
Dundee Legend
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Posted - 31 July 2012 : 12:47:38
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[i]Originally posted by Neil McCanns chip[/i]
[br]Revdee - people are panicking because we face going into the season with 11 fit outfield players, including four aged 21 or under none of whom have experience at this level. On top of that, two of our best players could be facing an extended spell on the sidelines if O'Donnell's scan doesn't go well and Riley has aggravated the hamstring injury that saw him miss the second half of last season.
At present, we could be going into the SPL with a weaker side than the one which finished 24 points behind Ross County in the first division last year.
I'm still hopeful that the injury/illness situation will abate a bit by Saturday and we'll be able to bring a few new faces in but five days before the big kick off and no new signings in place you can't blame people for fretting a bit.
We have brought in Baird, Davidson, Finnigan and Gallagher plus a young keeper and many of the SPL teams have added very few players to their squad. Having said that I feel we need 4 additional players for life in the SPL. Barry is quoted in today's Courier saying that fans should see new signings by the end of the week - so let's see who they are before hitting the panic button. |
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Revdee
First Team Player
United Kingdom
294 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 13:37:37
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All fair points but do you not think Barry is aware of the injuries etc??? There may be numerous reasons for needing to wait to sign certain players ie contract problems,wage demands, injuries etc
Lets not rush in and sign players just cause we have a few injuries. I'm not too worried about the first few games. I'm more concerned about the next few seasons. If Barry signs the 4 additional players he wants then great.
This season is not the "be all and end all" |
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Neil McCanns chip
First Team Player
185 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 13:55:59
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"We have brought in Baird, Davidson, Finnigan and Gallagher plus a young keeper and many of the SPL teams have added very few players to their squad. Having said that I feel we need 4 additional players for life in the SPL. Barry is quoted in today's Courier saying that fans should see new signings by the end of the week - so let's see who they are before hitting the panic button."
yeah, but we could also be without O'Donnell, Riley, Milne, McCluskey, Finnigan and Davidson for Saturday, which would leave us weaker than last season.
Like I said, I'm still hopeful that we bring a few players in and other recover in time to take their place for Saturday but the situation isn't great at the minute. |
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leemac
Fringe Player
144 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 14:08:42
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[i]Originally posted by NewportDee[/i]
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[i]Originally posted by Neil McCanns chip[/i]
[br]Revdee - people are panicking because we face going into the season with 11 fit outfield players, including four aged 21 or under none of whom have experience at this level. On top of that, two of our best players could be facing an extended spell on the sidelines if O'Donnell's scan doesn't go well and Riley has aggravated the hamstring injury that saw him miss the second half of last season.
At present, we could be going into the SPL with a weaker side than the one which finished 24 points behind Ross County in the first division last year.
I'm still hopeful that the injury/illness situation will abate a bit by Saturday and we'll be able to bring a few new faces in but five days before the big kick off and no new signings in place you can't blame people for fretting a bit.
We have brought in Baird, Davidson, Finnigan and Gallagher plus a young keeper and many of the SPL teams have added very few players to their squad. Having said that I feel we need 4 additional players for life in the SPL. Barry is quoted in today's Courier saying that fans should see new signings by the end of the week - so let's see who they are before hitting the panic button.
Yep,true but he's also quoted as saying we need players NOW,not Saturday.We could be oot the cup by Saturday |
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leemac
Fringe Player
144 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 14:14:39
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[i]Originally posted by Revdee[/i]
[br]Why are some folk panicing? Plenty time to strengthen the team. We may have to play the first 6 games with the squad we have, which is more than capable of winning games in this league by the way, if it means getting the right players then so be it. The season is not a sprint it's a marathon. Everybody has been praising the board and the manager so why start to doubt them now?
Barry will know what / who is required. I actually like the fact he has not signed anyone. Sign of a cool head.
Barry's allready identified the right players.That we have'nt signed them is nothing to do with cool heads.We could be isolated at the bottom after 6 games,you see what a bad start did to us last season.Barry is quoted as saying we need players in NOW!!!.Something or someone is stopping us make those signings at this moment in time. |
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Chris87
Dundee Legend
Madagascar
1942 Posts |
Posted - 31 July 2012 : 14:58:47
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Originally posted by leemac
Exactly.Somebody's not telling the truth.Transparency???.
Amazing! We got back into the SPL 5 minutes ago. Clearly everyone from the fans to the manager to the CEO knows that we need more players to actually compete this season - I have no doubt that the people who can do something about this are doing so, yet still there are people on here calling people at the club l***s and asking for "transparency". Unbelievable.
(Edit because the quote didn´t turn out right!)
(Edit.2 - Why are we not allowed to post the word l.i.a.r without the system editing it out???) |
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 31 July 2012 : 18:41:45
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| Looking at the fixtures it's crucial we pick up points at home, very difficult away games in the first part of the season. Undoubtedly we need new players in. |
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mickler
First Team Player
New Zealand
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Posted - 01 August 2012 : 01:28:49
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The transfer window is still open until the end of August - what’s the panic?
Barry said publicly in an open interview that we (the fans) would see players come in before the end of the week.
Lets’ allow Barry manage the team and go fir the players HE wants - not what some armchair managers on here feel he should sign-up.
Also, I'm sure the doctor's report on how bad or not the injuries to O'Donnell & Riely are, will be a factor on how long these players will be out for. Thus effecting what Barry does in the transfer market.
In Barry we trust!
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leemac
Fringe Player
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Posted - 01 August 2012 : 09:27:53
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Originally posted by Chris87
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Originally posted by leemac
Exactly.Somebody's not telling the truth.Transparency???.
Amazing! We got back into the SPL 5 minutes ago. Clearly everyone from the fans to the manager to the CEO knows that we need more players to actually compete this season - I have no doubt that the people who can do something about this are doing so, yet still there are people on here calling people at the club l***s and asking for "transparency". Unbelievable.
(Edit because the quote didn´t turn out right!)
(Edit.2 - Why are we not allowed to post the word l.i.a.r without the system editing it out???)
Get a grip Chris,eh've been supporting the Dee langer than you've been alive mate."Transparency" is something we were promised,so it's the least i'm looking for.The CEO has done a good job so far but has an annoying habit of dressing things up to make them look bonnier.To tell us that we will make signings regardless of the Sky money,stating that any Sky money is a bonus,is'nt being transparent,when it's pretty clear we are reliant on that money,just the same as everybody else!!.If we had'nt budgeted for the Sky money,why,after calls in the press for new players from the manager,did i have to watch a makeshift Dee struggle against 3 div oponents last night?.
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leemac
Fringe Player
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Posted - 01 August 2012 : 10:31:14
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Originally posted by mickler
The transfer window is still open until the end of August - what’s the panic?
Barry said publicly in an open interview that we (the fans) would see players come in before the end of the week.
Lets’ allow Barry manage the team and go fir the players HE wants - not what some armchair managers on here feel he should sign-up.
Also, I'm sure the doctor's report on how bad or not the injuries to O'Donnell & Riely are, will be a factor on how long these players will be out for. Thus effecting what Barry does in the transfer market.
In Barry we trust!
There's maybe nae panic if your sitting on the other side of the world in the sunshine but some of us had to endure 120 mins(plus penalties)of torture last night at a freezing cauld Peterhead.New players were needed before last night not before the end of August!!!! |
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