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Super Tommy
Website Editor
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 18 June 2012 : 08:48:30
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2012/13 fixtures are to be released this morning at 9am.
I'll post a link in this thread,
Please keep all discussion on the fixtures in this thread. |
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Super Tommy
Website Editor
United Kingdom
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spikethedee
Internationalist
United Kingdom
424 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2012 : 09:19:25
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| Can't beleive we're away to Kimarnock first game ;-) |
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Harvey
Forum Member
United Kingdom
342 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2012 : 11:22:51
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Originally posted by spikethedee
Can't beleive we're away to Kimarnock first game ;-)
HA! HA! |
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Gingejen
Forum Member
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Posted - 18 June 2012 : 11:32:22
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| Well given the fact that 'club 12' are occasionally at home at the same time as United I think we can safely presume we won't be 'club 12' |
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Dee4LifeBen
Under 18's Squad Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 June 2012 : 11:39:16
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Originally posted by spikethedee
Can't beleive we're away to Kimarnock first game ;-)
We will aren't in the SPL, we still follow the SFL fixure list just now.
We need to wait until the teams vote if they want Rangers in the SPL. |
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Dee4LifeBen
Under 18's Squad Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 June 2012 : 11:41:13
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Originally posted by Gingejen
Well given the fact that 'club 12' are occasionally at home at the same time as United I think we can safely presume we won't be 'club 12'
They will just change it to Sunday games! |
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Dundeesfinest
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
873 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2012 : 12:02:36
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Originally posted by Dee4LifeBen
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Originally posted by spikethedee
Can't beleive we're away to Kimarnock first game ;-)
We will aren't in the SPL, we still follow the SFL fixure list just now.
We need to wait until the teams vote if they want Rangers in the SPL.
Lost on some people I see........ |
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Revdee
First Team Player
United Kingdom
290 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2012 : 12:30:20
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I we were accepted into the SPL we are due to play Utd on 18th August.
Could or should this affect derby "friendly".
Is it wise to play direct opposition in a friendly just weeks before the season starts?? |
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ryankenneth1
Fringe Player
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 June 2012 : 12:38:18
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MikeM
Internationalist
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 June 2012 : 13:28:04
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Originally posted by Gingejen
Well given the fact that 'club 12' are occasionally at home at the same time as United I think we can safely presume we won't be 'club 12'
I wouldn't read to much into it. SPL already conceded the scheduling was all done with newco in mind and couldn't change it in time - I actually think its significant they have gone for Club 12. Would put our chances at 50-50 now. |
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Dark Blue Dreamchaser
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1509 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2012 : 13:30:53
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| Which is preferable to being at Hamilton on Boxing day, as is McDiarmid park on Jan 2nd, as opposed to a glamour mome game against Dumbarton! So who fancies producing the "Club 12" Tee shirts? |
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 June 2012 : 13:48:34
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Originally posted by Revdee
I we were accepted into the SPL we are due to play Utd on 18th August.
Could or should this affect derby "friendly".
Is it wise to play direct opposition in a friendly just weeks before the season starts??
Don't think that's a concern at all! I'm sure we've been in the SPL before and played SPl opposition in pre-season friendlies before. |
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Dundeesfinest
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
873 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2012 : 14:15:45
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Originally posted by Dark Blue Dreamchaser
Which is preferable to being at Hamilton on Boxing day, as is McDiarmid park on Jan 2nd, as opposed to a glamour mome game against Dumbarton! So who fancies producing the "Club 12" Tee shirts?
A Club 12 Shirt would be amazing! Also need to work on a Club 12 chant for matches........ |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2524 Posts |
Posted - 19 June 2012 : 15:11:24
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I am very surprised that no one has commented that from the 25th August until 29th October we play 2 games at home then 2 games away, then a further two games at home followed by another two games away. If you do not believe me look at the fixture list issued by the SFL computer. Then from 24th November until 19th January 2013 the same thing happens again.
In the past football clubs used to play at home one week and then away from home the following week. That does now appear to be the case. We are not alone as the same format of fixtures have also been allocated to Dunfermline.
Perhaps an offical from the SFL can explain why this has happened. |
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2563 Posts |
Posted - 19 June 2012 : 16:35:06
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| We haven't had HAHAHA in the fixtures for years! The SFL can't manage to do fixtures that way. |
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James Christie
Internationalist
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 June 2012 : 17:33:48
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Originally posted by darkbloo
We haven't had HAHAHA in the fixtures for years! The SFL can't manage to do fixtures that way.
You can't have alternate home and away games for more than a few games. If you start the season at home then there are four other sides playing at home that day. If you kept to a strict sequence of alternating home and away games then you'd never be able to meet those four clubs!
I think the SPL and SFL get a hard time over this. They deserved it when they refused to co-ordinate their fixtures, and they still sometimes do unreasonable things. However, it's a monstrously complicated problem. You can go a website like this that will churn out a simple fixture list. http://www.fixturelist.com/createalist3.php
However, the real problem is dealing with all the surrounding issues like;
- pairing sides so they're not at home at the same time,
- pairing sides for derbies/Christmas etc,
- handling local problems like the Links Market in Kirkcaldy,
- allowing the previous season's 4 champions to start at home, etc, etc.
Every time you make a change to allow for one of these complications it has a ripple effect on other fixtures.
This article on the BBC a couple of years ago was a fascinating insight into the problem. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/06/secrets_of_the_fixture_compute.html |
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dmbuild66
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 June 2012 : 17:35:17
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Originally posted by Gingejen
Well given the fact that 'club 12' are occasionally at home at the same time as United I think we can safely presume we won't be 'club 12'
Don't safely presume anything, its all to do with Sky TV wanting to show as many DFC games as possible on a Sunday, they are just wetting themselves waiting in the wings, desperate to get back to Dens Park again! ((o;
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2524 Posts |
Posted - 19 June 2012 : 18:03:59
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When the fixture list for season 2011-12 was published in June 2011 we were timetabled to have all our fixtures HAHAHA apart from the following;
10th September Raith (A)
17th September Falkirk (A)
29th October Partick (H)
5th November Raith (H)
7th April Falkirk (H)
10th April QOS (H)
This season we have four lots of either Home, Home or Away, Away before the 29th October 2012.
The same scenario has also taken place in the SPL fixture list although not quite as dramatic as Dundee's list of fixtures.
At one time football fans used to go to Dens one Saturday and Tannadice the following Saturday. With this season's set of SPL and SFL fixture lists this would be impossible. |
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2563 Posts |
Posted - 19 June 2012 : 18:38:59
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That was my point James, it's unlikely every club can be given a HAHAH cycle of fixtures all through the season.
Your default assumption that I am not impressed with the SFL's fixturing is correct though! |
Edited by - darkbloo on 19 June 2012 19:14:24 |
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 19 June 2012 : 22:16:34
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Dumbarton isnt the most inspiring opener. We were given Ayr at home last year too, when they came up.
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