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stu2910
Under 21's Squad Member
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1100 Posts |
 Posted - 29 May 2012 : 21:25:19
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it certainly does not deserve the use of capitalsquote:
Originally posted by stu2910
Am a little ashamed to tarnish this forum with the 'R' word but felt it had to be done.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18248766
I struggle to see how this would have happened to us!
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darkbluemullet
First Team Player
United Kingdom
167 Posts |
Posted - 29 May 2012 : 21:48:35
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| I can't post what I really want to post or I would be banned forever. All I will say that I saw it coming and if Scottish football had any respect left, it has been completely removed with amateurish, cowardly, unfair ruling. Why do we bother???? |
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gerrydee
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 May 2012 : 21:54:51
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Doesn't surprise me in the least.
Was always on the cards and shows that things will never change.
C and R will always be treated as special cases. |
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MikeM
Internationalist
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 29 May 2012 : 23:47:59
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Originally posted by gerrydee
Doesn't surprise me in the least.
Was always on the cards and shows that things will never change.
C and R will always be treated as special cases.
Used to think this but I now think its changed for ever. If SFA / SPL don't man up quick Scottish Football will be akin to wrestling rather than a sport. Celtic and non-OF fans know this and the game will be finally be up. 2012 is the year that changed our football for ever: one way (rangers) or the other (everyone else) |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2511 Posts |
Posted - 30 May 2012 : 00:34:22
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The decision by Lord Glennie at the Court of Session made be the "get out clause" that Neil Doncaster Chief Executive of the SPL was looking for. By asking the SFA Appeal panel to look at the decision again, hopefully this time the appeal panel will this expel Rangers from membership of the Scottish Football Association. If the SFA do nothing then FIFA will certainly act and Craig Levein will be receiving his P45 as the National team will be banned from European and International football.
Scottish football fans will not be able to see their national team playing because of the administrators Duff & Phelps and the Rangers Fighting Fund For putting up the funds for the court action at the Court of Session.
Duff & Phelps will not be too bothered as the are an American company however the office bearers of the Rangers Fighting Fund may be having second thoughts about their rash action. |
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stewartg
Dundee Legend
Japan
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darkbloo
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2552 Posts |
Posted - 30 May 2012 : 10:36:26
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Shuggy
Dundee Legend
861 Posts |
Posted - 30 May 2012 : 13:20:14
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It is moraly wrong for any Government or Public funded organistaion to accept anything less than 100% of debt to be repaid, even if the risk of not accepting this means money will be lost.
If they accept any less than 100%, they are effectively saying it is acceptable to evade tax, Council Tax payments, etc etc.
Time will tell whether this happens or not, if it does, i expect a big outcry and potential legal issues.
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Dark Blue Dreamchaser
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1505 Posts |
Posted - 30 May 2012 : 13:23:48
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Please feel free to look around the media on this one; Rangers have already taken on the SPL, SFA, HMRC etc., Now their court action has brought FIFA into the arena. Not a wise move! Both SFA and SPL may have to evoke the expulsion option to save Scottish football (including the national team) from being cast out from the international community.
Mr Blatter on my Christmas Card list? Who would have thought it? |
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1100 Posts |
Posted - 30 May 2012 : 14:49:16
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Stick my name on it as well.quote:
Originally posted by Dark Blue Dreamchaser
Please feel free to look around the media on this one; Rangers have already taken on the SPL, SFA, HMRC etc., Now their court action has brought FIFA into the arena. Not a wise move! Both SFA and SPL may have to evoke the expulsion option to save Scottish football (including the national team) from being cast out from the international community.
Mr Blatter on my Christmas Card list? Who would have thought it?
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2511 Posts |
Posted - 30 May 2012 : 20:40:13
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Walter Smith, Sandy Jardine, Jim Hannah and Rangers Assembly President Andy Kerr will control the bank account of the Rangers Fighting Fund and pass on donations to Duff & Phelps Administrators as and when the money is required. (Obtained from Rangers Fighting Fund website).
The Rangers Fighting Fund financed the action against the SFA at the Court of Session. If the Scottish clubs and and National team are kicked out of UEFA and FIFA run competitions as a result of this court action then these are the people to blame.
Unlike Ally McCoist I do not have to go through the media for my information. |
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mev
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
755 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2012 : 13:23:35
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I typed a lengthy comment re this matter but it was wiped when I tried to submit it!
Hopefully FIFA will be able to prevent the SFA/SPL from ignoring Rangers action at the Court of Session! They need to be absolutely hammered for taking their case outside of football. Hopefully the football authorities in Scotland will now issue Rangers with the penalty that fits their actions and demote them to the third division. Somehow I can't see that ever happening! It's more likely that they will try to impose a minor sanction that satisfies FIFA.
With the SPL deciding not to impose fixed sanctions for going down the newco route out of administration the way is wide open for a Rangers newco competing for trophies once again with virtually no punishment. I do not trust the SPL chairmen to issue any proper sanctions against a newco Rangers.
All this seems completely at odds with the way Dundee and Livingston etc have been treated! |
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1100 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2012 : 16:40:15
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te]Originally posted by mevTotally agree this disgrace to scottish football deserve liquidation and should the SFA bottle it then Scottish football will get its just desserts. Would feel sorry for Celtic and Motherwell but a European ban is hardly going to impact on us which at the end of the day, is the most important thing.
I typed a lengthy comment re this matter but it was wiped when I tried to submit it!
Hopefully FIFA will be able to prevent the SFA/SPL from ignoring Rangers action at the Court of Session! They need to be absolutely hammered for taking their case outside of football. Hopefully the football authorities in Scotland will now issue Rangers with the penalty that fits their actions and demote them to the third division. Somehow I can't see that ever happening! It's more likely that they will try to impose a minor sanction that satisfies FIFA.
With the SPL deciding not to impose fixed sanctions for going down the newco route out of administration the way is wide open for a Rangers newco competing for trophies once again with virtually no punishment. I do not trust the SPL chairmen to issue any proper sanctions against a newco Rangers.
All this seems completely at odds with the way Dundee and Livingston etc have been treated!
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2511 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2012 : 17:30:58
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If the SFA do not take action against Ragers going to the Court of Session then FIFA will take action and probably kick Scottish clubs out of next season's European club competitions. Should that happen Celtic, Motherwell, Dundee United, Hearts and St Johnstone should collectively or individually sue Messrs Smith, Jardine, Hannah and Kerr of the Rangers Fighting Fund and Duff & Phelps for financial compensation.
I am surprised that Messrs Smith, Jardine, Hannah and Kerr did check the UEFA and FIFA rules before handing over the funds to Messrs Duff & Phelps. Perhaps they think that they are above the law. |
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1100 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2012 : 18:45:12
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Apparently the SFA are preparing to annonce a severe penalty on all those at ibrox involved in disgracing Scottish Football, they are to be lined up before the commitee and sternly told that they are very very naughty boys and not to do it again.Meanwhile any club who have been nasty to rangers will start with a 30 point deduction.
Its as likely as the SFA doing the right thing. |
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1100 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2012 : 18:45:31
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announcequote:
Originally posted by alanrey25j
Apparently the SFA are preparing to annonce a severe penalty on all those at ibrox involved in disgracing Scottish Football, they are to be lined up before the commitee and sternly told that they are very very naughty boys and not to do it again.Meanwhile any club who have been nasty to rangers will start with a 30 point deduction.
Its as likely as the SFA doing the right thing.
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mev
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
755 Posts |
Posted - 01 June 2012 : 13:58:19
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quote:
Originally posted by alanrey25j
Apparently the SFA are preparing to annonce a severe penalty on all those at ibrox involved in disgracing Scottish Football, they are to be lined up before the commitee and sternly told that they are very very naughty boys and not to do it again.Meanwhile any club who have been nasty to rangers will start with a 30 point deduction.
Its as likely as the SFA doing the right thing.
Hopefully the SFA will give Rangers a massive penalty as it's clear from the lack of action at the SPL that they are powerless to punish Rangers and I doubt that they would do so even with the additional powers they have just voted in.
The chairmen of some clubs in the SPL are clearly happy for Rangers and Celtic to win the SPL every year and hope their own club can maybe win one of the cup competitions.
They don't want to lose the Sky Tv money so will do all they can to avoid punishing Rangers too severely. It's extremely blinkered of them as I know supporters of SPL clubs that are seriously considering never supporting them again if the SPL allow a newco Rangers to walk into the SPL.
If Dundee were in the SPL and voted to allow a newco Rangers into the SPL I too wouldn't be renewing my season ticket and would probably never ever go back to Dens!
Interesting times!
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2511 Posts |
Posted - 02 June 2012 : 00:51:31
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deepdarkblue
First Team Player
United Kingdom
211 Posts |
Posted - 02 June 2012 : 10:46:31
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| Letting Rangers off lightly and keeping them in the SPL sends the message to the TV companies that the SPL will roll over and do whatever to keep the TV lucre. Why would they offer the same (or more) money in the future if they can get it for less. To keep the same short term status quo they will destroy their own financial futures. Personally I would like the SFL to go to 2 divisions of 16 instead of waiting for the SFA to sort out Scottish football. If we could market this we may be able to draw some of the bottom SPL teams to join us in a fairer league with genuine competition for the top spot. From this you can probably deduce that I think RFC will be in the SPL next season which deeply saddens me. |
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MikeM
Internationalist
United Kingdom
331 Posts |
Posted - 02 June 2012 : 12:11:07
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