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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 26 May 2012 : 18:47:49
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One technical point on the Celtic EBT. It was set up for Juninho towards the end of the season and there is the possibility that he played almost no games under the EBT - barring a cup match - then left over the summer, I think. But as far as spirit of the game and everything, if the EBT infringed rules then yes, let it be. Again, what is your point compared to the enormous scale of what was being carried out at Rangers?
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dddb
Internationalist
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 May 2012 : 20:22:57
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| Oh yes, I forgot to say, in addition, RFC should be stripped of every honour they have won since 2001, therefore we'll have the 2003 Scottish Cup thank you very much. Still one trophy ahead of the arabs. |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 May 2012 : 21:51:04
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I suggest that you type in david grier mcr into your search engine (easysearch or google) and click on the heading "Some Questions for David Grier and the Administrators of...". You will find this very interesting.
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Posted - 27 May 2012 : 09:44:27
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I was just asking the questions, I didnt realise this was topic where you are only allowed to be critical of Rangers ,
on a previous thread I had raised the question of an investigation into RBTS which covered all of scottish football , but this was mocked by some others who were adamant that there was only one club involved my arguement being that if Rangers were doing it was extremely likely that others had been doing the same , and low and behold the other half of the brothers grimm have had a go as well. and in fact in England there are othere clubs who have been doing exactly the same as rangers and are waiting with interest on the result of the rangers appeal with HMRC.
there is currently no evidence that other scottish clubs have had EBTs' but is that because there hasnt been an investigation?
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1100 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2012 : 14:43:25
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So you want to instigate an investigation into the whole of Scottish football simply because your beloved rangers are totally guilty of years of wrongdoing? The main problem with the rangers fiasco is the sheer scale of it and the seeming belief that they should skate free cos of who they are.quote:
Originally posted by dundeemanonislay
I was just asking the questions, I didnt realise this was topic where you are only allowed to be critical of Rangers ,
on a previous thread I had raised the question of an investigation into RBTS which covered all of scottish football , but this was mocked by some others who were adamant that there was only one club involved my arguement being that if Rangers were doing it was extremely likely that others had been doing the same , and low and behold the other half of the brothers grimm have had a go as well. and in fact in England there are othere clubs who have been doing exactly the same as rangers and are waiting with interest on the result of the rangers appeal with HMRC.
there is currently no evidence that other scottish clubs have had EBTs' but is that because there hasnt been an investigation?
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1100 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2012 : 14:43:48
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I like your thinking.quote:
Originally posted by dddb
Oh yes, I forgot to say, in addition, RFC should be stripped of every honour they have won since 2001, therefore we'll have the 2003 Scottish Cup thank you very much. Still one trophy ahead of the arabs.
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 May 2012 : 20:08:22
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dundeemanonislay.
As the topic is TV Programme - Who Sold The Jerseys I would have thought you would have realised that this topic is about Glasgow Rangers. Of course you made be not be one of the 550,000 viewers who watched the programme on BBC Scotland last Wednesday night (23rd May 2012). |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2514 Posts |
Posted - 05 June 2012 : 14:46:32
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On the TV programme it stated that in 1988 David Murray phoned someone at Bank of Scotland to ask for a loan of £6 Million to purchase Glasgow Rangers and it was immediately granted.
I would be interested to know which Bank of Scotland employee granted this loan. I would have thought that a loan of £6 Million would have to be authorised at board level. |
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 06 June 2012 : 22:59:52
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Originally posted by islaydarkblue
On the TV programme it stated that in 1988 David Murray phoned someone at Bank of Scotland to ask for a loan of £6 Million to purchase Glasgow Rangers and it was immediately granted.
I would be interested to know which Bank of Scotland employee granted this loan. I would have thought that a loan of £6 Million would have to be authorised at board level.
It has become clear that over the years Murray, far from funding Rangers with his own money as he always says, was being bank rolled by a key fund manager in HBOS.
There have been some serious investigations by fraud squads and the police (Operation Hornet) in to this fund manager that has pointed to very corrupt practice in how funding and the associated debt was simply written off for years. The list of investors is wide to say the least.
If you have nothing better to do (!), here is an excellent time line of events over 2001/2008 in the down fall of HBOS. Note the growing links from around 2004 and financial disaster looming with Murray International Holdings, Rangers and the SPL:
http://www.ianfraser.org/a-brief-history-of-halifax-bank-of-scotland/
Its no wonder that when Lloyds took over the shell of HBOS in 2008 that they looked at the debt associated with Rangers and decided sorry lads, yer teas oot!
As a footnote, the financial demise of Livingston makes for interesting reading too regarding how it was bank rolled to near oblivion by the same investment strategies.
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