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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 23 May 2012 : 09:50:18
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On BBC1 tonight at 8pm there is a programme about Rangers headed "Who sold the Jerseys".
This programme should be very interesting as it is presented by the same person who "blew the whistle" about Craig Whyte's 7 year ban as a Company Director when it was televised last October. |
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darkbluemullet
First Team Player
United Kingdom
167 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2012 : 13:30:14
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| I smell another Rangers ban for BBC coming soon after this show.... |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2527 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2012 : 15:41:47
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| I do not think that the BBC will be heartbroken about another ban. |
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Grantzer
First Team Player
212 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2012 : 16:33:24
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| yeah, they never visit ANY club thats not in the SPL anyway....... |
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2012 : 18:19:01
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SPL has just announced (just hours before the programme, what a surprise!) that they want all documentation relating to player contracts and payments to be passed to them from Rangers.
Which begs the question of just what exactly they have been doing since March 5th when they first put this 'investigation' in motion.
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2527 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2012 : 21:24:42
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Mark Daly deserves a medal for his excellent investigative journalism on tonight's programme.
Duff and Phelps should never have been appointed administrators of Rangers FC by the judges at the Court of Session as Duff and Phelps are guilty of a conflict of interest.
Duff and Phelps should be dismissed as administrators of Rangers with immediate effect and a new firm of administrators should by appointed to look after the interests of the creditors. |
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2012 : 21:29:39
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looks like Rangers actually have been run by the Capone gang for years and years.
Of course, we need them. We really do.
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SensibleSoccer
Dundee Legend
Singapore
1675 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2012 : 07:23:57
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Either I am mistaken or Billy Dodds is forgetful or the BBC are mistaken, on BBC sportsound podcast a few weeks ago I heard him say that he snever had an EBT, whereas the BBC's helpful EBT table states categorically that he did;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18148818
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NewportDee
Dundee Legend
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Posted - 24 May 2012 : 08:57:55
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Originally posted by SensibleSoccer
Either I am mistaken or Billy Dodds is forgetful or the BBC are mistaken, on BBC sportsound podcast a few weeks ago I heard him say that he snever had an EBT, whereas the BBC's helpful EBT table states categorically that he did;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18148818
Surprised that Ally McCoist name does not appear. List also shows why Nacho, Zurab, Claudio and Gavin were happy enough to sign for the Gers! |
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andersong
Dundee Legend
SCOTLAND
2675 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2012 : 17:20:49
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When Whyte appointed his own Administrators I was amazed no-one objected.
I remember seeing Kenny Clark,ex ref now, enjoying a beer in a Rangers hospitality suite after he had reffed a game against us - enjoying all the Gers fans banter. He was from Paisley, just down the road - not that I am alleging anything mind!!
More conspiracy theories. |
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alanrey25j
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
1104 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2012 : 17:45:44
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| It should now be apparent that they have systematically, bent, evaded and cheated the system for years and in the process dragged the name of Scottish football into the mire, to say nothing of the behaviour of their fans across Europe. Well done to the investigator for a job well done and lets hope that justice will, eventually, be served. |
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2012 : 22:37:16
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the thing is that if they have been paying out secret secondary contracts it doesnt actually matter if they win or lose the EBT case. If they win, they are still guilty of paying players via illegal contracts. They lose, they are guilty of illegal contracts and of an ENORMOUS tax dodging scheme.
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mev
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
758 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2012 : 23:34:37
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| What happened at Dundee, Livingston, Gretna etc was financial mismanagement. What has been happening at Rangers is criminal. They should be relegated to the third division. Smaller clubs get hammered for mismanagement whilst Rangers get away with downright fraud. Why any right minded individual would think it okay for them to reform as a newco then come straight into the SPL is beyond me! |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2527 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2012 : 00:34:14
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Grant.
HMRC wanted their own administrators but the judges at the Court of Session in Edinburgh ruled that Craig Whyte could appoint his own choice of administrator. Several weeks ago on a previous topic I said that the judges at the Court of session should "hang their heads in shame" in deciding that Duff & Phelps (Craig Whyte's preferred administrator) be appointed administrator at Rangers FC. |
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2012 : 20:26:53
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Rangers are going to Court of Session over the 12 month signing ban. This is interesting as rules, as laid out by FIFA and UEFA that we must adhere to, clearly state that any club taking football related issues to a civil court are immediately relegated/thrown out of the league.
Just where is all of this leading to? they are either stupid or - in line with the last 20 years - trying to manipulate things.
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MikeM
Internationalist
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 May 2012 : 00:03:15
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| If they are in SPL next year with no penalties and Gattuso and Black in midfield then other teams should refuse to play them - or maybe they'll all just carry on in the interest of a short term buck. fans? Who needs 'em! Let me guess what's more likely..... |
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islaydarkblue
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
2527 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2012 : 00:28:47
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| Duff & Phelps have probably never been administrators of a football club and have never checked the rules laid out by FIFA and UEFA. |
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Posted - 26 May 2012 : 01:47:16
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| i notice that in that BBC scotland report that celtic also admitted having had and EBT they have admitted to having one and not declaring it for juninho , so I suppose as they won the scottish cup that year that would go to United then? if they have admitted to one how many others are there that they havent admitted to? should this now be investigated as well or do we take their word that they only had one? |
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andersong
Dundee Legend
SCOTLAND
2675 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2012 : 15:51:38
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| Another moral issue is that all these highly paid indiviuals in receipt of an EBT were paying little or no tax therefore contributing nothing to our society. I trust they used schools, hospitals (probs went private and club paid that too!), roads, and all the other things that those of us on PAYE have to pay for. Shocking! |
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dddb
Internationalist
United Kingdom
324 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2012 : 17:15:13
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| Surely the appropriate punishment for 20 years of cheating, fiddling, breaking SFA and SPL rules etc, is to be completely expelled from these organisations, and run out of Scottish football for good? Mind you, Duff @ Phelps may yet do accomplish this and save the authorities the bother. |
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highway_star
Dundee Legend
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2012 : 18:38:27
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Originally posted by dundeemanonislay
i notice that in that BBC scotland report that celtic also admitted having had and EBT they have admitted to having one and not declaring it for juninho , so I suppose as they won the scottish cup that year that would go to United then? if they have admitted to one how many others are there that they havent admitted to? should this now be investigated as well or do we take their word that they only had one?
well, yes it should if it was illegal. Whats your point? again, you make the mistake of erm Rangers fans, who keep pointing at others about 'having an EBT'. EBT's are legal but not if you run them as nothing more than a tax evasion scam. If it was the case for Celtic and that involved the cup back then or any league game, then yes. No problem with that judgement. Again, what is the point you are making? other than why am I being done for shop lifting, what about aw the other shop lifters! its no fair!
By the way, when Celtic realised EBT's were open to question they closed it and dealt with HMRC about it at the time (and paid back the tax). Rangers actually continued to use it.
In addition, as far as I am aware there is no evidence of any other team in the SPL using an EBT to pay people that werent employed by the club for years! Clear evidence of being 'at it'.
One final note, this entire horror story is based around the corruption that has driven Rangers close to destruction, involving some of the key players on its board for years. Yet, you come on here and start talking about Celtic. Remarkable.
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TV Programme - Who Sold The Jerseys
